tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post5177023947786357809..comments2009-06-08T15:27:07.299-04:00hello gorgeoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15257391996828119047noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-12897147835694023182009-06-08T15:27:07.299-04:002009-06-08T15:27:07.299-04:00I suppose I&#39;ll have to be in the minority. I live in the Pacific Northwest, and came to your blog via a google search for ways to kill the english ivy that is overtaking my yard. We bought the house last summer knowing that we&#39;d have a bit of an ivy problem, and we&#39;ve spent a year ripping it out and killing every little start before it gains even a toehold.<br /><br />Ivy not only kills trees, but it crowds out native plant species, turning whole areas into ivy deserts. We&#39;re trying to nurture some native woodland plants such as sorrel and salal in the shade of our big cedar, as well as some rare and local ferns. We&#39;ve had some success, but only because we&#39;re on a vendetta against ivy.<br /><br />So please don&#39;t plant it or cultivate it. You&#39;ll regret it, and the fragile native plants of your area will too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-37630911488581516792009-03-25T14:13:00.000-04:002009-03-25T14:13:00.000-04:00I love ivy, and have a bunch of it in my backyard. My neighbor has been preaching the "invasive/non-native" thing at me for two years, but I refuse to remove it. We just try to control it by trimming it and keeping it off of the trees, etc. I'm glad to find this post-it eases my conscience!inDdecorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12390297647020873491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-45734625319785590962009-03-25T07:58:00.000-04:002009-03-25T07:58:00.000-04:00I am a big fan of ivy - I think it is so beautiful when it grows on the side of brick homes. What a great idea for a post! It also made me inexplicably happy that you found a 4 leaf clover; my grandmother used to always search for 4 leaf clovers wherever we went, and once she found one in a field to the side of a road when we were lost in the English countryside.Things That Inspirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04405995431610377305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-42872097209256334792009-03-24T08:32:00.000-04:002009-03-24T08:32:00.000-04:00brilliant post.Paul Pincushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05238236951876804955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-79824294280465055302009-03-19T14:32:00.000-04:002009-03-19T14:32:00.000-04:00This is so interesting. Love it growing over a wall, don't love it as a ground cover. I hear it makes too good of a hiding place for pests, so it scares me a bit. <BR/><BR/>That ivy covered house is gorgeous.Brilliant Asylumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09656796025200050768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-55454328927369565312009-03-19T11:52:00.000-04:002009-03-19T11:52:00.000-04:00http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20030212&amp;slug=gardenplanttalk12<BR/><BR/>http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/pardonourdust/2007/11/evil-ivy.html<BR/><BR/>http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1009&amp;context=vpc6<BR/><BR/>We have a beautiful 60+ foot tall cedar tree in our yard. We had an arborist out last year, and he told us we needed to remove all the ivy growing in the shade of the tree (none was on the tree itself). He said the ivy robs surrounding vegetation of water, and that it prevents proper air circulation at the root level of the tree (in the soil? I&#39;m not sure). Anyway, he said the tree was not thriving, partly as a result of the ivy. <BR/><BR/>In California, we have a year-round growing season so things can get really out of control. Think giant roaches and rats, and little shop of horrors vegetation. ha ha. The side of CA that no one ever thinks about. I don&#39;t think it would normally happen in this arid climate, but man has changed things with artificial irrigation, etc.<BR/><BR/>Ivy is just like bamboo. The wrong kind can be a nightmare. But there are all kinds, and there is a type suited to every locale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-72358081982236826592009-03-19T09:08:00.000-04:002009-03-19T09:08:00.000-04:00HG, oh thank goodness on the no rats. It's a "thing" with me, a bit of holdover from growing up in Asia. Girl, the rats are the size of freaking dogs. We live in Berks Co. (or as we whisper "Jerks Contee") and the native vermin are many and do some serious damage on anything that is planted in their buffet.<BR/><BR/>The flower show, well we enjoyed it for the most part. It was something fun and family for me and the little girl to do. It was a mob of people though. I loved all the terrariums and orchids but we didn't spend much time in the landscaping displays. I'll check with my kid and see if she's got some pics of the braided ivy. I spent hours yesterday and braided four "trees", two more and I'll see how they do this year. Anything to avoid any more digging the fuckers up out of the clay beds.Lolonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-33958436963107977902009-03-19T07:26:00.000-04:002009-03-19T07:26:00.000-04:00Yay, Karly!<BR/><BR/>Pam: I'm glad to hear your opinion because lots of plant people don't like it now. <BR/><BR/>P-D: Your link didn't work. I have seen it before though and it is pretty but also deciduous, right?hello gorgeoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15257391996828119047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-64179566689624254172009-03-19T07:17:00.000-04:002009-03-19T07:17:00.000-04:00Anon: Just so you know, there are no rats in ivy out east. At least not in either of the two houses I've had.<BR/><BR/>And Boston ivy isn't evergreen which is one of the things I love about English ivy: green in winter.<BR/><BR/>David: I had a sycamore tree covered in it and the garage and some landscapers ripped it all down without asking. I was so upset! It's growing back on the tree but hasn't started back on the garage yet. I'll have to give it some help.<BR/><BR/>Lolo: If you live near Philly, you do not have rats in your ivy.<BR/><BR/>Did you go to this year's flower show? I don't recall seeing the braided topiary trees. I was hugely disappointed in the show.hello gorgeoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15257391996828119047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-59043888146563494992009-03-18T23:20:00.000-04:002009-03-18T23:20:00.000-04:00I will take ivy covered walls any day, sisterkarly / design crisishttp://www.design-crisis.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-75711885272822260532009-03-18T14:40:00.000-04:002009-03-18T14:40:00.000-04:00The stone house where we lived as small children was covered by virginia creeper. it was a perfect plant because it was all leafy and green in the summer, turned brilliant red in the fall and lost its leaves in the winter. <BR/><BR/>Scroll down a bit on <A HREF="http://www.bakerlite.co.uk/concorde_prints.htm" REL="nofollow">this page</A> and you will see a great example of gorgeous Virginia Creeper. This is a friend's castle in Wales. It was taken in the late fall when the Virginia Creeper was bright red, and I might add, just spectacular.Pigtown-Designhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13775512940294150252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-49971404292704781162009-03-18T14:35:00.000-04:002009-03-18T14:35:00.000-04:00I say ivy over mulch any day! - ivy is so much more romantic than not. I really enjoyed this post, and food for thought - and am looking forward to hearing the final verdict.The Little Big Househttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05717876208368993107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-72557590728841871132009-03-18T13:37:00.000-04:002009-03-18T13:37:00.000-04:00Oh, just to clarify from my earlier post: You have to consider the ivy type, and where you live. English ivy might be great in the Northeast, but it is bad in Southern California.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-64676906417162109602009-03-18T13:25:00.000-04:002009-03-18T13:25:00.000-04:00Let's hear it for Hedera helix aka English Ivy! It's a wonderful and versatile vine and I am in complete agreement -- I would much rather see ivy growing than mulch. The best thing about it is that it grows where other plants won't, plus it does not require irrigation and it isn't that hard to maintain -- but it does need to be kept at bay. Thumbs down to Delaware!Pam Kerstinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10180448328445549120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-10179656175693554322009-03-18T13:22:00.000-04:002009-03-18T13:22:00.000-04:00There are many different kinds of ivy, with varying habits and characteristics. And the planting region matters, too.<BR/><BR/>In Southern California, we have an abundance of English ivy (Hedera helix). Not only is it ubiquitous and ugly, it is extremely invasive, smothers plants, kills trees, and harbors rats. Truly awful stuff. (If you live here, you know this.)<BR/><BR/>Check out the California Invasive Plant Council's website at:<BR/><BR/>http://www.cal-ipc.org/<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, Boston Ivy is lovely and very manageable in SoCal. Beautiful fall color and well mannered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-45643823756964575402009-03-18T12:02:00.000-04:002009-03-18T12:02:00.000-04:00Oh my I am in love with that little pretty house.Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06079170724803122137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-69085290274068395182009-03-18T10:02:00.000-04:002009-03-18T10:02:00.000-04:00I too have sometimes yes, others NO relationship with ivy. We had two ginormously long beds of it flanking the front approach. Each one about 40x3? And I had fits because when I see that much ivy I think "rat haven". What can I say? It's a thing of mine, just like palm trees are rat hotels.<BR/><BR/>I've removed it in stages over the years and I'm down to the last sections that are flanking the downward slope of the lawn. I've hesitated due to the difficulty and worried about creating a mini waterfall of clay and dirt BUT at the flower show in Philly I may have discovered a solution that could be perfect.<BR/><BR/>Braid the ivy into topiary "trees"!!! So, that's one of the projects for this spring. After I finish the dividing and transplanting and uh, stuff. <BR/><BR/>No mulching though. I know my neighbors roll their eyes at my winter beds but I just don't like the vast swaths of stinky mulch. I'm that neighbor who sweeps all the leaves into the beds and steps them down in. They make it all happy for the worms and in the spring I pull it all back to find all sorts of waiting sprouts.Lolonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-5694094044834670032009-03-18T08:58:00.000-04:002009-03-18T08:58:00.000-04:00I agree - down with excessive mulch! <BR/><BR/>I like ivy, as long as I don't have to rip it out because it is taking over my parents' yard ... that was traumatizing.Stephaniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16338164103202396208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-33212786233227591512009-03-17T20:58:00.000-04:002009-03-17T20:58:00.000-04:00oh! oh! that house!gracie ohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14236788626234431666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-27117756121263546352009-03-17T19:54:00.000-04:002009-03-17T19:54:00.000-04:00It's bad for painted brick walls... but other than that, I don't know. <BR/>I love ivy in shady spots!! And I love that it grows so quickly! We used it in the tiny extremely shady courtyard off the back of my old condo, and it was wonderful to see growing up the (painted) brick wall. So much more interesting than just a wall. I also loved that it was green year round.<BR/><BR/>But you do have to keep it in check! And by keeping the pieces you cut back, you can start new plants!Rachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18209533406055486161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-12792940158418454062009-03-17T18:07:00.000-04:002009-03-17T18:07:00.000-04:00i love ivy, - holding moisture against the mortar might be bad long term though?hmstrjamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18017610081463108485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-80047317097088669832009-03-17T17:46:00.000-04:002009-03-17T17:46:00.000-04:00I love the ivy overtaking the sofa. It's so decadent and some other word I can't seem to get a grasp on...dammit! I have a succulent overtaking a stone bench in my backyard. I think I'm just going to let it do what it will. Oh...Big Love is one of my favorites too.Jillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08171054999389018364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1550682510636470426.post-16401602694163715812009-03-17T16:46:00.000-04:002009-03-17T16:46:00.000-04:00I'm conflicted about ivy. I love it in a pot, especially a varigated variety. As a ground cover, not so much.<BR/><BR/>Our former neighbor Virginia had the most perfect tree in her back yard, and the entire trunk, probably 20 feet tall or more, was covered with ivy, as was the ground around it. The problem was that it wouldn't stay there, and made it's way through and up our fence, which I didn't like.<BR/><BR/>Conversely, when I decorate for Christmas I always seem to use some good artificial ivy. <BR/><BR/>I guess I'm a fan, with qualifiers.Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003316530755458623noreply@blogger.com